Just a small idea

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A.Presman
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Just a small idea

Post by A.Presman »

You know this situation.
One player begins with the beautiful combination. He gives away one piece. His opponent (good player indeed) caclulates the combination also, sees that he loose and gives up.
Spectators do not see the beauty happend ( if there are no demonstrations with comments).
Later this game is being published in the magazine or in the book. And not that high qualified reader do not understand what has happened and why one player gave up.

Solution: Small addition to rules. Player can't give up if he is obliged to strike.
Erik vd Weerdhof

Post by Erik vd Weerdhof »

You van give up after your move or if you can't give up yat all you can simply walk away (your time will keep going) or act in a way that will make you loose the game.
A.Presman
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Post by A.Presman »

But why would you act by such a way?
Now after the first move of the combination you see that you are going to loose and you just give up because you recognize it. ( Not because you are an conscious enemy of spectators) [img]images/smilies/icon_smile.gif[/img]
But if you know that you are obliged to capture - you simply will capture and will give up only after the end of combination of your opponent.
Jacques PERMAL
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Explanation

Post by Jacques PERMAL »

If there is a combination and a player ( who will lost) decide to give up; the two players should explain the combination (without speaking) to spectators.
Information : my first priority !!

L'info en première ligne !!
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Teun van de Krol
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Post by Teun van de Krol »

I think it is great idea of Alexander. I for instance always let the combination go to the end and congratulates afterwards. If I was stupid enough to be victim, then my opponent is entitled on his moment of glory. No one is to big for this. If you want to win with beauty you should be able to let your opponent win with beauty to.

Walking away and loosing on the clock is very childish. [img]images/smilies/icon_wink.gif[/img]
Erik vd Weerdhof

Post by Erik vd Weerdhof »

Yesterday a game was played in the championship of Gelderland, a part of the Netherlands, between E. v.d. Pol and T. Janssen. In the end V.d. Pol had 2 kings and 2 pieces at the border, black 1 king, so obviously very easily winning for white. Black however, refused to give up. V.d. Pol didn't move until he had 5 minutes left for 75-move time control. When 75 moves were reached, Janssen took his coat and went home without giving up, so there are people who act this way.

I think you shouldn't (and can't!) force a player to continue if he doesn's want to play, I suppose the winner will be happy to show the combination to others.
Erik vd Weerdhof

Post by Erik vd Weerdhof »

Oh bye the way Janssen had 1,5 hour left...
Karvinen

Post by Karvinen »

Think Alexander's idea is a great one!
Also think that Janssen should be disqualified for unfair play!
Mark Hees
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Post by Mark Hees »

Actually, Jannes vd Wal once started a combination and his opponent wanted to resign. Jannes refused this, because he wanted to finish the combination.
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