Computer Olympiad

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Computer Olympiad

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At the Talkchess forums, it was just posted that the 2011 Computer Olympiad will be held at Tilburg University in the Netherlands: http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/icga/event.php?id=43

Is it an idea to let the annual draughts tournament coincide with this event? Or do people want to have the regular Open Dutch championships in september or december as well? I would definitely prefer to be at the Olympiad and have some interaction with the chess programmers as well.

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Hello Rein,

Funny. This is exactly the same thought Jan Krabbenbos (Dutch Computer Chess Organization) and I had, also for the Dutch championship. Unfortunately I am not too familiar with the Dutch or international organization of the draughts variant. I thought Jaap Bus is a central figure but these days I can not reach him, probably he is on a vacation. Do you maybe have other contact information of Dutch or international computer draughts organization?

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Rein, Marcel,

I think this is a good idea. You can try contacting Leo Nagels about this. If you don't have his e-mail address you can e-mail me.

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Jan-jaap, maybe I missed it.
But what was the hardware you used during the tournament...??

For now i rely on a i7 940 2.9 Ghz, and 12 GByte Memory, and a 40 GByte SSD for my endgame databases.

This processor is more or less obsolete, and new records are created through ( for example) the i7 3960 (Sandy bridge 3.3 Ghz, 6 cores..).

Bascially this chip has 8 cores but due to thermal restrictions (i guess) only 6 are activated.
Maybe with the Ivy Bridge die-shrink we will get 8-core desktop processors.
In the Xeon range 8 core Sandy Bridge will be introduced next year...
(so could you imagine the power :D of a dual-processor or quad-processor Xeon system !!, but also the costs :( )

Also interesting is the new socket 2011 motherboards with 8 DIMM slots.
So as 4GByte memeory-chips are relatively cheap ( < 25 euro), a massive 32 GByte memory is affordable (with 8 GByte chips, you can even get into the 64 GByte memory !!).

Also in the SSD arena, within a few years a 500 GByte SSD is no longer a black hole in your wallet...

With this type of hardware, generating a 8P DB would be doable in a few months I guess.
And nodes/second would grow to > 50Mnodes/sec ( with a dual-processor 8-core/processor system)


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BertTuyt wrote:Jan-jaap, maybe I missed it.
But what was the hardware you used during the tournament...??

For now i rely on a i7 940 2.9 Ghz, and 12 GByte Memory, and a 40 GByte SSD for my endgame databases.

This processor is more or less obsolete, and new records are created through ( for example) the i7 3960 (Sandy bridge 3.3 Ghz, 6 cores..).

Bascially this chip has 8 cores but due to thermal restrictions (i guess) only 6 are activated.
Maybe with the Ivy Bridge die-shrink we will get 8-core desktop processors.
In the Xeon range 8 core Sandy Bridge will be introduced next year...
(so could you imagine the power :D of a dual-processor or quad-processor Xeon system !!, but also the costs :( )

Also interesting is the new socket 2011 motherboards with 8 DIMM slots.
So as 4GByte memeory-chips are relatively cheap ( < 25 euro), a massive 32 GByte memory is affordable (with 8 GByte chips, you can even get into the 64 GByte memory !!).

Also in the SSD arena, within a few years a 500 GByte SSD is no longer a black hole in your wallet...

With this type of hardware, generating a 8P DB would be doable in a few months I guess.
And nodes/second would grow to > 50Mnodes/sec ( with a dual-processor 8-core/processor system)


Bert
Ed Trice sent me a benchmark result from running kingsrow on an overclocked 5GHz i7-980 with 6 cores. He got 39M nodes/sec on a search to depth 19 at the opening position. That is about twice the speed that I get with my 8-core dual Xeon machine that is now a few years old.

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BertTuyt wrote: For now i rely on a i7 940 2.9 Ghz, and 12 GByte Memory, and a 40 GByte SSD for my endgame databases.
Hi Bert,

Here's an interesting link by a new database company:
http://www.tokutek.com/wp-content/uploa ... s-work.pdf
On pages 48-52 they make some projections for future technology.
Their main message: rotating disks aren't going away soon performance-wise.

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BertTuyt wrote:Jan-jaap, maybe I missed it.
But what was the hardware you used during the tournament...??
I used the same hardware as during the ONK, an Intel Quad Core i7-2600K 3.4 GHz 16GB RAM.
Ed Gilbert wrote:Ed Trice sent me a benchmark result from running kingsrow on an overclocked 5GHz i7-980 with 6 cores. He got 39M nodes/sec on a search to depth 19 at the opening position. That is about twice the speed that I get with my 8-core dual Xeon machine that is now a few years old.
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