Is there such a program?

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Is there such a program?

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Tue Sep 03, 2024 20:51

I'm looking for a program (if there is one) that would help me save games horizontally during a tournament. I will write what I mean. I have my game saved like this:

01. 34-30 20-25
02. 32-28 25x34
03. 39x30 16-21
04. 44-39 21-26
05. 37-32 26x37
06. 42x31 15-20
07. 30-25 18-23
08. 40-34 12-18
09. 47-42 17-21
10. 31-26 07-12
11. 26x17 12x21
12. 36-31 08-12
13. 31-26 02-08
14. 26x17 12x21
15. 32-27 21x32
16. 28x37 18-22
17. 41-36 01-07
18. 36-31 22-28
19. 33x22 23-29
20. 34x23 19x17
21. 45-40 20-24
22. 39-33 14-20
23. 25x14 10x19
24. 40-34 05-10
25. 46-41 07-12
26. 31-27 13-18
27. 43-39 17-22
28. 37-31 11-17
29. 50-44 10-14
30. 49-43 08-13
31. 31-26 22x31
32. 26x37 14-20
33. 37-31 20-25
34. 41-37 06-11
35. 38-32 18-23
36. 33-29 24x33
37. 39x28 17-21
38. 35-30 11-16
39. 43-38 09-14
40. 31-27 14-20
41. 37-31 12-17
42. 27-22 21-26
43. 22x11 16x07
44. 38-33 26x37
45. 42x31 20-24
46. 34-29 25x34
47. 29x09 04x13
48. 44-39 34x43
49. 48x39 24-29
50. 33x24 19x30
51. 28-23 07-11
52. 32-27 11-17
53. 23-18 13x22
54. 27x18

And I would like to write it down this way:

01. 34-30 20-25 02. 32-28 25x34 03. 39x30 16-21 04. 44-39 21-26 05. 37-32 26x37 06. 42x31 15-20 07. 30-25 18-23 08. 40-34 12-18 09. 47-42 17-21
10. 31-26 07-12 11. 26x17 12x21 12. 36-31 08-12 13. 31-26 02-08 14. 26x17 12x21 15. 32-27 21x32 16. 28x37 18-22 17. 41-36 01-07 18. 36-31 22-28
19. 33x22 23-29 20. 34x23 19x17 21. 45-40 20-24 22. 39-33 14-20 23. 25x14 10x19 24. 40-34 05-10 25. 46-41 07-12 26. 31-27 13-18 27. 43-39 17-22
28. 37-31 11-17 29. 50-44 10-14 30. 49-43 08-13 31. 31-26 22x31 32. 26x37 14-20 33. 37-31 20-25 34. 41-37 06-11 35. 38-32 18-23 36. 33-29 24x33 37. 39x28 17-21 38. 35-30 11-16 39. 43-38 09-14 40. 31-27 14-20 41. 37-31 12-17 42. 27-22 21-26 43. 22x11 16x07 44. 38-33 26x37 45. 42x31 20-24 46. 34-29 25x34 47. 29x09 04x13 48. 44-39 34x43 49. 48x39 24-29 50. 33x24 19x30 51. 28-23 07-11 52. 32-27 11-17 53. 23-18 13x22 54. 27x18

My question is whether there is any program that would help me with this. Thank you in advance for your answers.

Krzysztof

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by FrankMesander » Tue Sep 03, 2024 21:12

You can write it as a PDN file, that writes horizontally.
With Tornado you can also Export the game as a DOC (*.txt) file, that is also horizontally.

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Tue Sep 03, 2024 21:34

If I paste it into a pdn file, the text will be as below and it will not be written horizontally.

01. 34-30 20-25
02. 32-28 25x34
03. 39x30 16-21
04. 44-39 21-26
05. 37-32 26x37
06. 42x31 15-20
07. 30-25 18-23
08. 40-34 12-18
09. 47-42 17-21
10. 31-26 07-12
11. 26x17 12x21
12. 36-31 08-12
13. 31-26 02-08
14. 26x17 12x21
15. 32-27 21x32
16. 28x37 18-22
17. 41-36 01-07
18. 36-31 22-28
19. 33x22 23-29
20. 34x23 19x17
21. 45-40 20-24
22. 39-33 14-20
23. 25x14 10x19
24. 40-34 05-10
25. 46-41 07-12
26. 31-27 13-18
27. 43-39 17-22
28. 37-31 11-17
29. 50-44 10-14
30. 49-43 08-13
31. 31-26 22x31
32. 26x37 14-20
33. 37-31 20-25
34. 41-37 06-11
35. 38-32 18-23
36. 33-29 24x33
37. 39x28 17-21
38. 35-30 11-16
39. 43-38 09-14
40. 31-27 14-20
41. 37-31 12-17
42. 27-22 21-26
43. 22x11 16x07
44. 38-33 26x37
45. 42x31 20-24
46. 34-29 25x34
47. 29x09 04x13
48. 44-39 34x43
49. 48x39 24-29
50. 33x24 19x30
51. 28-23 07-11
52. 32-27 11-17
53. 23-18 13x22
54. 27x18

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by FrankMesander » Tue Sep 03, 2024 22:06

Import the pdn file in Tornado and Export it as DOC (*.txt).
That wil give a good result.

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Wed Sep 04, 2024 06:50

This is a text file, not a pdn.

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by FrankMesander » Wed Sep 04, 2024 07:27

Did you try to export as pdn from Tornado? It will give you the desired result.

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Wed Sep 04, 2024 13:35

Hi Frank,
I have a request. Can you see for yourself if it works?

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by Ed Gilbert » Wed Sep 04, 2024 13:48

Copy the text of the moves to the clipboard with CTRL-C, paste it into kingsrow with CTRL-V, and now copy it from kingsrow to the clipboard with CTRL-C. I just did it, here is a paste from the clipboard:

[Event ""]
[Date "2024.09.04"]
[White ""]
[Black ""]
[Result "*"]
1. 34-30 20-25 2. 32-28 25x34 3. 39x30 16-21 4. 44-39 21-26 5. 37-32 26x37 6. 42x31 15-20 7. 30-25 18-23 8. 40-34 12-18 9. 47-42 17-21 10. 31-26 7-12 11. 26x17 12x21 12. 36-31 8-12 13. 31-26 2-8 14. 26x17 12x21 15. 32-27 21x32 16. 28x37 18-22 17. 41-36 1-7 18. 36-31 22-28 19. 33x22 23-29 20. 34x23 19x17 21. 45-40 20-24 22. 39-33 14-20 23. 25x14 10x19 24. 40-34 5-10 25. 46-41 7-12 26. 31-27 13-18 27. 43-39 17-22 28. 37-31 11-17 29. 50-44 10-14 30. 49-43 8-13 31. 31-26 22x31 32. 26x37 14-20 33. 37-31 20-25 34. 41-37 6-11 35. 38-32 18-23 36. 33-29 24x33 37. 39x28 17-21 38. 35-30 11-16 39. 43-38 9-14 40. 31-27 14-20 41. 37-31 12-17 42. 27-22 21-26 43. 22x11 16x7 44. 38-33 26x37 45. 42x31 20-24 46. 34-29 25x34 47. 29x9 4x13 48. 44-39 34x43 49. 48x39 24-29 50. 33x24 19x30 51. 28-23 7-11 52. 32-27 11-17 53. 23-18 13x22 54. 27x18 *

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by FrankMesander » Wed Sep 04, 2024 14:09

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 13:35
Hi Frank,
I have a request. Can you see for yourself if it works?
Yes, it works.

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Wed Sep 04, 2024 14:23

Ed Gilbert wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 13:48
Copy the text of the moves to the clipboard with CTRL-C, paste it into kingsrow with CTRL-V, and now copy it from kingsrow to the clipboard with CTRL-C. I just did it, here is a paste from the clipboard:

[Event ""]
[Date "2024.09.04"]
[White ""]
[Black ""]
[Result "*"]
1. 34-30 20-25 2. 32-28 25x34 3. 39x30 16-21 4. 44-39 21-26 5. 37-32 26x37 6. 42x31 15-20 7. 30-25 18-23 8. 40-34 12-18 9. 47-42 17-21 10. 31-26 7-12 11. 26x17 12x21 12. 36-31 8-12 13. 31-26 2-8 14. 26x17 12x21 15. 32-27 21x32 16. 28x37 18-22 17. 41-36 1-7 18. 36-31 22-28 19. 33x22 23-29 20. 34x23 19x17 21. 45-40 20-24 22. 39-33 14-20 23. 25x14 10x19 24. 40-34 5-10 25. 46-41 7-12 26. 31-27 13-18 27. 43-39 17-22 28. 37-31 11-17 29. 50-44 10-14 30. 49-43 8-13 31. 31-26 22x31 32. 26x37 14-20 33. 37-31 20-25 34. 41-37 6-11 35. 38-32 18-23 36. 33-29 24x33 37. 39x28 17-21 38. 35-30 11-16 39. 43-38 9-14 40. 31-27 14-20 41. 37-31 12-17 42. 27-22 21-26 43. 22x11 16x7 44. 38-33 26x37 45. 42x31 20-24 46. 34-29 25x34 47. 29x9 4x13 48. 44-39 34x43 49. 48x39 24-29 50. 33x24 19x30 51. 28-23 7-11 52. 32-27 11-17 53. 23-18 13x22 54. 27x18 *
Thank you for your answer. I have a question, is it possible to save movements, for example 02, 07, 09? Do I have to fill in the zeros in the game record myself.

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Wed Sep 04, 2024 14:25

FrankMesander wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 14:09
Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 13:35
Hi Frank,
I have a request. Can you see for yourself if it works?
Yes, it works.
Thank you for the information, I haven't tried doing this yet.

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Wed Sep 04, 2024 14:44

Hi Frank,
if you tried it, does the movement record have zero or not, for example in movement 02-07.

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by FrankMesander » Wed Sep 04, 2024 14:59

No zero, so: 2-7, not 02-07.

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by Ed Gilbert » Wed Sep 04, 2024 23:42

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2024 14:23
Thank you for your answer. I have a question, is it possible to save movements, for example 02, 07, 09? Do I have to fill in the zeros in the game record myself.
No, there is no requirement in the PDN standard for the square numbers in moves to have leading zeros, so kingsrow does not generate them.

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Re: Is there such a program?

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Thu Sep 05, 2024 07:29

Thanks for the answer Ed.

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