Feike Boomstra's Horizon draughts program released

[BertTuyt]

Does someone has a clue how engines can hook into the DGT Caissa System (at least I assume that is the system used during the next Draughts World championship).
It would be fun if we know the format of the data stored available, so we can analyse with multiple engines, and provide comments.

Bert

[Wieger Wesselink]

Does someone has a clue how engines can hook into the DGT Caissa System (at least I assume that is the system used during the next Draughts World championship).
It would be fun if we know the format of the data stored available, so we can analyse with multiple engines, and provide comments.

Bert

As far as I know Caissa is a chess-only product. For draughts a program called EBS is used, that was written by Huub van de Wetering and me. The next version of it will produce output in PDN, with clock times in comments, and special setup tags to handle move reconstruction failures (see http://10x10.org/pdn/). These PDN files are used as input for the dambolite applet to display the games. You can use these PDN files to get access to the live games.

Currently I'm investigating the possibility to automatically send all positions appearing in the live games to Kingsrow, and displaying the search results on the web in some kind of format. The communication is done via the DamExchange protocol. Ed had added some features to Kingsrow that should make this possible.

[BertTuyt]

Wieger,

is there a simple way to access these PDN files?
Or do we need special access and authorization to get into the match computer?

Bert

[Wieger Wesselink]

Wieger,

is there a simple way to access these PDN files?
Or do we need special access and authorization to get into the match computer?

Bert

If you look at the page source of the web page with applets, you will see something similar to

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<APPLET codebase="." archive="dambolite.jar" code="org10x10/lite/DamboLite.class" width=270 height=370>
    <param  name="url" value="game.pdn" >  
</APPLET>

From that you can extract the location of the PDN file. These PDN files can be read by anyone.

[Piet Bouma]

The next version of it will produce output in PDN, with clock times in comments, and special setup tags to handle move reconstruction failures (see http://10x10.org/pdn/). These PDN files are used as input for the dambolite applet to display the games. You can use these PDN files to get access to the live games.

Currently I'm investigating the possibility to automatically send all positions appearing in the live games to Kingsrow, and displaying the search results on the web in some kind of format. The communication is done via the DamExchange protocol. Ed had added some features to Kingsrow that should make this possible.

When will the next version of the EBS with .pdn file be released Wieger?
And have there been tests with it already?
It would be marvellous if the EBS-service will provide .pdn.
But still today only .LDF.gz of .ldf.gz are used.

For example:
Groningen Seaports:

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<applet class="up1" width="230" height="323" codebase="http://www.livedraughts.com" archive="http://www.livedraughts.com/Help/dambolite.jar" code="org10x10/lite/DamboLite.class">
            <param name="fgcolor" value="0x404040" />
            <param name="bgcolor" value="0xFFFFFF" />
            <param name="hlcolor" value="0x#7A1F1F" />
            <param name="file" value="http://www.livedraughts.com/GSM/ronde11/1.LDF.gz" />
            <param name="refreshInterval" value="15000" />
            <param name="margin" value="0" />
</applet>

or WK juniors:

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<APPLET codebase="http://www.livedraughts.com" archive 
="/Help/dambolite.jar" 
        code="org10x10/lite/DamboLite.class"   width=243
 height=342
><param name="fgcolor" value="0x7A1F1F"> <param
 name="bgcolor" value="0xE9E7E9"> <param name="hlcolor"
 value="0x#7A1F1F"> <param name="file"
 value="http://www.livedraughts.com/WKJun2010/1.ldf.gz"> <param
 name="refreshInterval" value="12000"> <param name="margin" value="0"></applet>

So Bert can't test anywhere the .pdn function.....

Will the release will be introduced before the Worldchampionship 2011???

[Wieger Wesselink]

When will the next version of the EBS with .pdn file be released Wieger?
And have there been tests with it already?
It would be marvellous if the EBS-service will provide .pdn.

We plan to have everything ready by the end of January. The last couple of weeks we have removed the .ldf format from EBS, and replaced it by .pdn. Also the dambolite applet has been made ready for the extended .pdn format. We need to do some more testing, and there are a few more issues with EBS that have to be addressed before a new release comes out.

[BertTuyt]

Wieger, what the status now??
See below quote

We plan to have everything ready by the end of January. The last couple of weeks we have removed the .ldf format from EBS, and replaced it by .pdn. Also the dambolite applet has been made ready for the extended .pdn format. We need to do some more testing, and there are a few more issues with EBS that have to be addressed before a new release comes out.

Bert

[Marcel Kosters]

Hello Bert,

A late reaction on your question concerning e-boards.

The KNDB as Wieger already reported now sells DGT electronic draughtsboards at 829 euros a set of e-board, 2x20 e-pieces, DGT XL clock, required connection cables including USB to COM converter, mains adapter and the BoCo and EBS software required for live game registration and broadcast.

It will be very nice when draughts programs such as Damage will be able to communicate with the
e-board. I will be happy to provide you with a 'loaner' in order for you to develop and test the required functionality.

You can contact me through marcelkosters at gmail.com

Best regards,
Marcel

[BertTuyt]

Marcel, thanks for your reply.
I mailed you some info, so please check your GMail inbox

Bert