10 piece endgame databases

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MichelG
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10 piece endgame databases

Post by MichelG »

After a discussion with Bert, i decided to do a bit of work on the endgame databases again. I increased the generation speed manyfold, and also generated a partial 5 man vs 5 man endgame database. (win/draw/lose only, international draughts)

First i generated the full 1-8 piece endings (120 hours) and then did 5 man vs 4 man partial (about half a day) and then 5 vs 5 partial (about 1 day). On on a 64 GB, 24 core, intel 13900.

5v4 is resolved 48.6% for non-capture positions, and 5v5 solves only 18.9%.

Details and some sample positions at:
https://www.mdgsoftware.nl/draughts/sta ... -5040.html and
https://www.mdgsoftware.nl/draughts/sta ... -5050.html

I am still working on increasing the percentage of solved positions; that involves computing some of the sub-databases like 4+1 vs 3+1 first, but i suspect the effect will be limited.

Unfortunately the files are too huge to distribute (171 GB for 5v5) and they definitely will not improve program strength. I just generated them for fun.
BertTuyt
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Re: 10 piece endgame databases

Post by BertTuyt »

Michel, nice work!
My next question would be, could a neural network encode this information (example 5x5), with 99% accuracy?
Or sufficient accuracy to win complicated endgames, or to draw endgames where you have an enormous problem.

Bert
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