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Post by Jacques PERMAL » Mon Feb 07, 2005 13:43

About the famous photo of JEAN-MARC NDJPFANG :

I searched "NDJOFANG" with GOOGLE. The picture link was in 3rd position !!

As soon as possible I will indicate pictures link of 2nd round of teams french cup between PARIS A and ROUEN. MAXIME KOUAME (Ivory-Coast - GMI) and ALAIN TETY (Ivory-Coast) played for PARIS A.
GERARD SANNIER , webmaster of ROUEN site, will post them for us.
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Post by Guest » Mon Feb 07, 2005 14:59

chessdrummer wrote: I've made the changes on the six pages where his name appears.

How is Ndiaga Samb doing these days?

Daaim Shabazz, The Chess Drum
http://www.thechessdrum.net/
webmaster@thechessdrum.net
Hello Daaim,
Will you please be so kind to give us the links to these pages about Ndiaga and draughts on the chessdrum?
Thanks a lot.

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Post by Jacques PERMAL » Tue Feb 08, 2005 07:28

Now, pictures of MAXIME KOUAME (Ivory Coast) and ALAIN TETY (same country) are available. They were taken this sunday during 2nd round of COUPE DE FRANCE 2005 (Teams competition in FRANCE) between PARIS A and ROUEN. This match was played in ROUEN. PARIS A won and advanced to quarter-final.

You can see also NICOLAS GUIBERT who is the 1999 french champion and was the organizer of the two contests between his software BUGGY and the senegalese player NDIAGA SAMB.

More here :

http://rouendames.chez.tiscali.fr/huitiemes.htm
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Ndiaga Samb and Baba Sy

Post by chessdrummer » Tue Feb 08, 2005 14:23

This is wonderful information! It appears that I will have to do more reports. Carl Smith is from my hometown of Chicago!

Here are (The Chess Drum) reports on Ndiaga Samb and the one I just did on Baba Sy. The one of Sy has already received attention from chess players. The dates are included on most of them.

Ndiaga Samb

Is chess king in Africa? No... Africa is home of world's #11 checker player!!
http://www.thechessdrum.net/newsbriefs/ ... ckers.html

International Checkers joins Computer-Human debate!
http://www.thechessdrum.net/newsbriefs/ ... -Samb.html

Senegal's N'Diaga Samb vs. "Buggy" Computer in rematch!
http://www.thechessdrum.net/newsbriefs/ ... -Samb.html

Ancient Chess in Africa!
http://www.thechessdrum.net/historicmom ... oct02.html

The Talking Drum (featuring NM Charles Covington)
http://www.thechessdrum.net/talkingdrum/TDmarapr02.html

Baba Sy

GM Baba Sy: 1st African Checker World Champion
http://www.thechessdrum.net/newsbriefs/ ... abaSy.html
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Rashid Gibiatovich Nezhmetdinov

Post by chessdrummer » Tue Feb 08, 2005 14:40

I just discovered from a chessplayer in Jamaica that a Russian chess legend was also a strong draughts player. His name was Rashid Gibiatovich Nezhmetdinov. If he was as strong in draughts as in chess, then he was really strong! He was known for his attacking skill and combinations.

I did some looking and found a link:

http://amchesscoaching.com/rashid%20ziy ... tdinov.htm

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Re: Rashid Gibiatovich Nezhmetdinov

Post by Hanco Elenbaas » Tue Feb 08, 2005 20:59

chessdrummer wrote:I just discovered from a chessplayer in Jamaica that a Russian chess legend was also a strong draughts player. His name was Rashid Gibiatovich Nezhmetdinov. If he was as strong in draughts as in chess, then he was really strong! He was known for his attacking skill and combinations.

I did some looking and found a link:

http://amchesscoaching.com/rashid%20ziy ... tdinov.htm
I never heard of him as a draughtsplayer. Wasn't he a checkers (64) man?

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Re: Ndiaga Samb and Baba Sy

Post by Hanco Elenbaas » Tue Feb 08, 2005 21:01

chessdrummer wrote:This is wonderful information! It appears that I will have to do more reports. Carl Smith is from my hometown of Chicago!

Here are (The Chess Drum) reports on Ndiaga Samb and the one I just did on Baba Sy. The one of Sy has already received attention from chess players. The dates are included on most of them.

Ndiaga Samb

Is chess king in Africa? No... Africa is home of world's #11 checker player!!
http://www.thechessdrum.net/newsbriefs/ ... ckers.html

International Checkers joins Computer-Human debate!
http://www.thechessdrum.net/newsbriefs/ ... -Samb.html

Senegal's N'Diaga Samb vs. "Buggy" Computer in rematch!
http://www.thechessdrum.net/newsbriefs/ ... -Samb.html

Ancient Chess in Africa!
http://www.thechessdrum.net/historicmom ... oct02.html

The Talking Drum (featuring NM Charles Covington)
http://www.thechessdrum.net/talkingdrum/TDmarapr02.html

Baba Sy

GM Baba Sy: 1st African Checker World Champion
http://www.thechessdrum.net/newsbriefs/ ... abaSy.html
Wonderful job Daaim, thank you! Especially your Baba Sy page is great propaganda for our game.
Maybe you should contact Walter van Beek, he is the Africa-expert in the FMJD-board.

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Post by A.Presman » Tue Feb 08, 2005 21:29

Very nice job, indeed.

Rashid Nezhmetdinov was strong player in 64 draughts (russian version).
He played final of the championship of Sovjet Union in his time.

The thema of strongest chess players who has interest in draughst and opposite was already many time topic of discussion.

In Holland there is a traditional competition in so called thinktriathlon : bridge, chess, draughts.
Draughts International Grandmaster Ron Heusdens won it many times.

Rashid Nezhmetdinov is one of the best "combination" players.
But the best one is certainly Pierre Ghestem who was World champions draughts, French chess champion and European champion bridge.

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Re: Ndiaga Samb and Baba Sy

Post by Hanco Elenbaas » Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:27

chessdrummer wrote:This is wonderful information! It appears that I will have to do more reports. Carl Smith is from my hometown of Chicago!
In Turbo Dambase there are 291 games from Carl Smith during the period 1967 - 1991.
Smith played 10 official games with Baba Sy. One time, in December 1974, Smith won, Baba took his revenge in December 1976.
Here is Carl "Buster" Smith's finest moment with his friend Baba Sy.

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Pictures from Patrick Kopp's Official Baba Sy site
http://dammeur2.free.fr/Baba%20Sy/preface.htm


Baba Sy - Carl Smith 0 - 2
Sugartournament
Grand Hotel Krasnapolsky Amsterdam
December 27th 1974
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Post by Hanco Elenbaas » Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:46

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Carl Buster Smith, May 3rd 1972,
Hengelo, World championship, vs Andreiko



Carl Smith died in his residence Chicago in 1992 when he was 72 years old. Smith was the first American who represented his country during international tournaments. He was a competitor in the World championships in Bolzano 1968, Hengelo 1972 and Amsterdam 1976.
His greatest succes was the tournament in Hoogezand-Sappemeer, The Netherlands, 1977, in which he finished third with 16 points out of 11 games, just one point behind the winning couple Harm Wiersma/Rob Clerc, but before players like Baba Sy, Kaplan, Hans Jansen and Mamina N'Diaye.
(free from Ton Sijbrands magazine Dammen, november 1972)

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Post by Guest » Wed Feb 09, 2005 13:49

Hanco Elenbaas wrote:Image
Carl Buster Smith, May 3rd 1972,
Hengelo, World championship, vs Andreiko



Carl Smith died in his residence Chicago in 1992 when he was 72 years old. Smith was the first American who represented his country during international tournaments. He was a competitor in the World championships in Bolzano 1968, Hengelo 1972 and Amsterdam 1976.
His greatest succes was the tournament in Hoogezand-Sappemeer, The Netherlands, 1977, in which he finished third with 16 points out of 11 games, just one point behind the winning couple Harm Wiersma/Rob Clerc, but before players like Baba Sy, Kaplan, Hans Jansen and Mamina N'Diaye.
(from Ton Sijbrands magazine Dammen, november 1992)

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Post by chessdrummer » Wed Feb 09, 2005 13:54

I have a new idea for an essay looking at Black pioneers in both draughts and chess. I believe that seeing these legendary figures are inspiring regardless of which board sport one plays.

However, we have to break up the West African monopoly of draughts! Maybe I will go to Senegal as a chess missionary. Certainly, I'm joking... both are wonderful sports.

In our sport, both the Chinese and Indians are making tremendous progress and are both becoming top chess nations. India has the #2 player in the world in GM Viswanathan Anand and the Chinese women have won four gold team medals in a row and held the women's world title for a decade until recently (when GM Zhu Chen didn't play for maternity reasons). TheChinese men are near the top ten in the world.

Unfortunately, in Africa (and Black players in general), there is not a strong support for these activities. Federations have done a poor job in marketing chess and it is primarily thought as a game for the European or American male elite intellectuals. We have taken more to checkers-64 in the U.S., but there are no organized activities. I'm not sure where Carl Buster Smith learned draughts in Chicago.

Here's a story from a friend about checkers in Atlanta:

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Sulaiman Smith tells a story of a Senegalese named Mamadou who approached a group of checker players in College Park, Georgia (USA) and asked to play. After the men were completely outclassed by the Senegalese draughts maven, they couldn't believe he was so much better than them! Perhaps Mamadou got his start on the sandy streets of Dakar, Senegal watching older men play the venerable board sport as seen above.

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Post by Hanco Elenbaas » Wed Feb 09, 2005 20:56

Some pictures you might use:

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Sierra Leone

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Angola 2000

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Kenya

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Dakar, Senegal, 1999

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Ivory Coast 1991

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http://www.africanfilm.com/damier.htm
Le Damier, Papa National Oyé!
The Draughtsmen Clash
Congo 1996

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Algerian lithography, year unknown

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Ghanese draughts players in The Hague

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"Oware Players" - William Kwamena-Poh

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Chippewa Indians Playing Checkers
by Seth Eastman

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Harry Herman Roseland - Playing Checkers

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Harry Herman Roseland - Playing Checkers

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CHECKERS
in New Orleans

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Dickson Maughn champion of
a tournament in Port-of-Spain, Trinidad,
September 2004
For report see Trinidad Guardian,
http://www.guardian.co.tt/archives/2004 ... orts5.html

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Make your move - Holston

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Marc Simont - Playing checkers in New York's Washington Square Park after dark

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Ndiaga Samb (GMI from Senegal)
Victory in Groningen Rapidnight 1996

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Jean-Marc Ndjofang (GMI from Cameroon)
in 2002's Challenge Mondial (Challengers tournament)
in Yakutia, Siberia

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Jean-Marc Ndjofang - Ndiaga Samb
Delft tournament 2004

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Bassirou Ba (GMI from Senegal)
Amsterdam, December 1975
Bassirou Ba is the ruling Champion of Africa
since 2003 http://cf.geocities.com/brabel2/AAFRICA ... rticipants

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Mamina N'Diaye (GMI from Mali)
Amsterdam, December 1975

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Post by chessdrummer » Thu Feb 10, 2005 04:11

Wow! Such a wide variety and powerful. West Africa is really a staging ground for strong players.

I am slowly, but surely becoming a propagandist for the FMJD! [img]images/smilies/shrug.gif[/img]

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Post by Hanco Elenbaas » Fri Feb 11, 2005 00:08

Jacques PERMAL wrote:Now, pictures of MAXIME KOUAME (Ivory Coast) and ALAIN TETY (same country) are available. They were taken this sunday during 2nd round of COUPE DE FRANCE 2005 (Teams competition in FRANCE) between PARIS A and ROUEN. This match was played in ROUEN. PARIS A won and advanced to quarter-final.

You can see also NICOLAS GUIBERT who is the 1999 french champion and was the organizer of the two contests between his software BUGGY and the senegalese player NDIAGA SAMB.

More here :

http://rouendames.chez.tiscali.fr/huitiemes.htm
Hey Jacques, how are you? You don't dare to say anything anymore, now that you hit the Jackpot (777)?!?

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