Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

If this should happen in a real tournament, the Ares program should have a winning game.

Not in an ICGA tournament, as I said.

In this case, it doesn't matter which tournament.

I wrote software for the DGT board that allows you to transmit games on the internet and that allows you to take back mistakes. Let me know if you are interested in this for next year's tournament.

Please see Jan if the software is suitable. I use it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-Vx-uFNddk

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

And please remember one thing - previous tournaments also had the same rules.

[clp]

What to do in case of a crash should be in the tournament regulations ideally. If not the operator handles it to its own discretion (as Krzysztof did).

Why not continue the game from the last move ? Starting the game over again is unsatisfactory in my opinion.

DGT board does not allow this.

Then force the engines to repeat the moves from the suspended game.

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Then force the engines to repeat the moves from the suspended game.

Sorry, but you're writing off topic.

[jj]

Please see Jan if the software is suitable. I use it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-Vx-uFNddk

As far as I know that software can not handle taking back moves. My software can, as I said.

[clp]

What do people think, was replaying that game later a fair solution? In ICGA tournaments you are allowed to recover from a crash but here there is no rule for this. What should be the rule?

Consider for example the game Ares - Dragon in round 23. And let's assume the game is being discontinued for technical reasons. Then after that, the game should ideally continue from the position after move 65. Restarting the game is in my opinion unsatisfactory.

I cannot imagine this is "impossible".

[Jelle Wiersma]

I personally think SB is the best, nevertheless, it is clear that Damage has "gold". Congratulations to Bert, and thanks to Krzysztof for running this 34-rounds tournament!

With SB I meant Sonneborn - Berger for tie breaks (not Sjende Blyn)

[Wieger Wesselink]

Congratulations Bert with your amazing victory! A four point difference seems enormous to me.

And Krzysztof thanks a lot for your hard work! I find it very interesting to watch the progress of the different draughts engines.

[EricvanDusseldorp]

What do people think, was replaying that game later a fair solution? In ICGA tournaments you are allowed to recover from a crash but here there is no rule for this. What should be the rule?

Consider for example the game Ares - Dragon in round 23. And let's assume the game is being discontinued for technical reasons. Then after that, the game should ideally continue from the position after move 65. Restarting the game is in my opinion unsatisfactory.

I cannot imagine this is "impossible".

I fully agree.

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

EricvanDusseldorp and clp there is no such thing as finishing the game from a given position. Remember about it.

[clp]

EricvanDusseldorp and clp there is no such thing as finishing the game from a given position. Remember about it.

Krzysztof, what is reasonable is real. Remember about it.

[Sidiki]

Hi all (again )

Once again, thanks to Krzysztof and all the programmers that maked this happen.

The main problem this, ie the rank polemic, caused here by SB (not Sjende Blyn ), it's that TCEC or FIJE or FMJD players are ranked by elo points.

But here, no program are ranked, so SB, itsn't so necessary. We don't know for example the elo points of Kingsrow or Damage, Ares.....

The simple thing again would be : at the end of the tournament, the rank it's linked to number of wins, draws, lossses = number of points, if it's higer, you must get the best rank.

Friendly, Sidiki.

[clp]

Hello Sidiki,

The tournament is a great achievement of Krzystof and a great opportunity for the development of computer draughts.

As you pointed out there are various ways to establish a final ranking.

However the official website reads:

In Poland, in the town Kórnik will be held from 01.09.2021 to 18.09.2021 tournament " The Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021 ". The tournament will be played on the system "round - robin" consisting of thirty four rounds, about the place in the tournament to decide the score Sonneborn - Berger, time for a game 15 minutes + 10 second for 75 moves - all programs are set to 15 minutes for 75 moves, an additional 10 seconds was added to make movements on the DGT Draughts E-Board. During the tournament I will use the program DraughtsArbiter Pro.

In Krzystof's mind, but not on paper, there is the idea that the greater number of wins (or losses) is a deciding tie-break factor.

My idea would be: either put this in writing on the website to avoid confusion, or adjust the final ranking to the original regulations.

[Sidiki]

Hello Sidiki,

The tournament is a great achievement of Krzystof and a great opportunity for the development of computer draughts.

As you pointed out there are various ways to establish a final ranking.

However the official website reads:

In Poland, in the town Kórnik will be held from 01.09.2021 to 18.09.2021 tournament " The Unofficial World Championship Of Computer Programs In International Draughts 2021 ". The tournament will be played on the system "round - robin" consisting of thirty four rounds, about the place in the tournament to decide the score Sonneborn - Berger, time for a game 15 minutes + 10 second for 75 moves - all programs are set to 15 minutes for 75 moves, an additional 10 seconds was added to make movements on the DGT Draughts E-Board. During the tournament I will use the program DraughtsArbiter Pro.

In Krzystof's mind, but not on paper, there is the idea that the greater number of wins (or losses) is a deciding tie-break factor.

My idea would be: either put this in writing on the website to avoid confusion, or adjust the final ranking to the original regulations.

Hi clp,

I understood, so Draughts Arbiter Pro don't make things as expected by Krzystof, so the tie-break algorithm perhaps don't calculated correctly.

No problem, the next time will be the good, i will if god permit and some programmers do a tournament in a couple of months, 2 perhaps, i will get my new powerfull computer in 10 days.

God bless us all and permit to this draughts community to grow up.

Friendly, Sidki.

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Sidiki and clp please don't write nonsense. Program DraughtsArbiter Pro calculated everything correctly and well.