Internet engine matches

[Sidiki]

Hi all,
It seem that Killer Scan, if it's the program that played this dxp game against Kingsrow, is not to strong than Scan 2.0.
I am confuse, someone posted games beetween Killer Scan and Scan 2.0, and Killer Scan had strongest.
Perhaps is't à endgame database lake, because Killer Scan have only the 3.

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Match KILLER DRAUGHTS (modified Scan 2.0) - KINGSROW (2-move ballots)

Killer Draughts vs. Kingsrow 1.57a 4 wins, 5 losses, 149 draws, 0 unknowns


Killer Draughts

Book = true
Book-margin = 0
Threads = 4
Tt-size = 21
Bb-size = 5
Pondering = Off
Time = 1 Min / 100 Moves


Kingsrow

Opening Book = Best Moves
HashTable Size = 32 MB
DB cache Size = 10000 MB 6P
Threads = 4
Pondering = Off
Time = 1 Min / 100 Moves


Match played on a computer with the equipment.

Processor - Intel Core I7 2670QM, 2.2GHz
Hard disc - SSD Samsung 840 Evo 1 TB
Memory of frames - 16 GB DDR3 1333
System - Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Service Pack 1 PL

[Fabien Letouzey]

Hi Krzysztof,

Killer Draughts vs. Kingsrow 1.57a 4 wins, 5 losses, 149 draws, 0 unknowns

The number of draws seems too high for killer draughts. Is Kingsrow really using the killer rule?

Fabien.

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

The number of draws seems too high for killer draughts. Is Kingsrow really using the killer rule?

Fabien.

Yes they played both engines. Tomorrow match for 1 minute in a normal game.

[Ed Gilbert]

The number of draws seems too high for killer draughts. Is Kingsrow really using the killer rule?

Fabien.

Yes they played both engines. Tomorrow match for 1 minute in a normal game.

Huh? There is no killer version of kingsrow. Since it doesn't know the rules, kingsrow might declare games to be drawn when they are not by killer rules. This is probably a bogus result.

-- Ed

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Fabien please write what are the rules Killer draughts. Is this normal program draughts, yes or no.

[Fabien Letouzey]

Fabien please write what are the rules Killer draughts. Is this normal program draughts, yes or no.

Killer rule: "the king must stop on the first vacant square after the last captured piece, if and only if that piece is also a king." (http://www.mindsports.nl/index.php/on-t ... r-draughts)

It's not the same game.

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Killer rule: "the king must stop on the first vacant square after the last captured piece, if and only if that piece is also a king." (http://www.mindsports.nl/index.php/on-t ... r-draughts)

It's not the same game.

Thank you for the information Fabien. Well, it makes no sense to play further matches with Kingsrow.

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Match KINGSROW - SCAN (2-move ballots)

Kingsrow 1.58 vs. Scan 2.0 4 wins, 7 losses, 147 draws, 0 unknowns

Kingsrow 1.58

Opening Book = Best Moves
HashTable Size = 32 MB
DB cache Size = 10000 MB 6P
Threads = 4
Pondering = Off
Time = 1 Min / 100 Moves

Scan 2.0

Book = true
Book-margin = 0
Threads = 4
Tt-size = 21
Bb-size = 6
Pondering = Off
Time = 1 Min / 100 Moves

Match played on a computer with the equipment.

Processor - Intel Core I7 2670QM, 2.2GHz
Hard disc - SSD Samsung 840 Evo 1 TB
Memory of frames - 16 GB DDR3 1333
System - Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Service Pack 1 PL

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Match KINGSROW - SCAN (Normal game - 158 games)

Kingsrow 1.58 vs. Scan 2.0 1 wins, 7 losses, 149 draws, 1 unknowns

Kingsrow 1.58

Opening Book = Best Moves
HashTable Size = 32 MB
DB cache Size = 10000 MB 6P
Threads = 4
Pondering = Off
Time = 1 Min / 100 Moves

Scan 2.0

Book = true
Book-margin = 0
Threads = 4
Tt-size = 21
Bb-size = 6
Pondering = Off
Time = 1 Min / 100 Moves

Match played on a computer with the equipment.

Processor - Intel Core I7 2670QM, 2.2GHz
Hard disc - SSD Samsung 840 Evo 1 TB
Memory of frames - 16 GB DDR3 1333
System - Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Service Pack 1 PL

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Match KINGSROW - SCAN (3-move ballots)

Kingsrow 1.58 vs. Scan 2.0 13 wins, 48 losses, 926 draws, 1 unknowns

Kingsrow 1.58

Opening Book = Best Moves
HashTable Size = 32 MB
DB cache Size = 10000 MB 6P
Threads = 4
Pondering = Off
Time = 1 Min / 100 Moves

Scan 2.0

Book = true
Book-margin = 0
Threads = 4
Tt-size = 21
Bb-size = 6
Pondering = Off
Time = 1 Min / 100 Moves

Match played on a computer with the equipment.

Processor - Intel Core I7 2670QM, 2.2GHz
Hard disc - SSD Samsung 840 Evo 1 TB
Memory of frames - 16 GB DDR3 1333
System - Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Service Pack 1 PL

[Sidiki]

Hi Ed
Please i want to run à dxp game beetween Kingsrow and any program with your old protocole (1move ballot), if i can call it like this.
I mean, the kind of match you runed against Damage in the past. Example 32-28 20-25 and then 32-28 19-23 and so and so all played by both side and opponent.
Thank.
Kindly, Sidiki.

[Ed Gilbert]

Please i want to run à dxp game beetween Kingsrow and any program with your old protocole (1move ballot), if i can call it like this.
I mean, the kind of match you runed against Damage in the past. Example 32-28 20-25 and then 32-28 19-23 and so and so all played by both side and opponent.

The example you gave are 2-move start positions. This selection still exists in kingsrow for dxp matches.

-- Ed

[Krzysztof Grzelak]

Hi Ed
Please i want to run à dxp game beetween Kingsrow and any program with your old protocole (1move ballot), if i can call it like this.
I mean, the kind of match you runed against Damage in the past. Example 32-28 20-25 and then 32-28 19-23 and so and so all played by both side and opponent.
Thank.
Kindly, Sidiki.

And what you have versions Damage.

[Sidiki]

Hi Ed,
You are right, it's perhaps because it's doesn't begin again by the beginning. The 2 moves are already played like à FEN. Thank for the answer, i see now.

Kindly, Sidiki.