FMJD WORLD CUP

J.Pawlicki · Post by **J.Pawlicki** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 16:04

Z Ufą jest zawsze ten sam problem. To jest jednak daleko i wielu federacji/zawodników zwyczajnie na to nie stać. Lub jeszcze inaczej, za te same lub mniejsze środki mogą sobie pojachać do ciekawszej turystycznie Pragi czy Cannes.

Z drugiej strony tam zwyczajnie jest dużo warcabistów i to dobrych. Pamiętam w 2001 roku miałem przyjemność obserwować mecz Ufa-Iszymbaj na ... 50 warcabnicach. I to w tym samym czasie gdy w innym miejscu odbywał się Puchar Europy. Trudno by ci miejscowi zawodnicy nie grali.

Koos van Amerongen · Post by **Koos van Amerongen** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 20:16

Roel heeft zijn GMI-titel te pakken.

Beste speler van het toernooi is eigenlijk Pim.
Hoe vaak win je in één toernooi van Schwarzman, Baljakin én Shchegolev?
Resultaat: een toernooiprestatierating van 1699!
Jammer van het rekenfoutje tegen Kolosov.

Verliezer van het toernooi is ongetwijfeld Ron, die zich in smurfenland bevond.

Hanco Elenbaas · Post by **Hanco Elenbaas** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 20:19

Marcel Kosters wrote: UFA - Roel Boomstra verwierf vandaag de internationale grootmeestertitel in het World Cup toernooi in het Russische Ufa. Met zijn 18 jaar is jeugdwereldkampioen Boomstra een van de jongste grootmeesters ooit. Samen met landgenoot Pim Meurs (23) - die oud-wereldkampioen Alexander Schwarzman en Nederlands kampioen Alexander Baljakin versloeg en vijfde werd - kwalificeerde hij zich voor de finale van de World Cup die eind dit jaar in Beijing gespeeld wordt.

Ook kampioen Getmanski heeft zich geplaatst voor Beijing.

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   1 a. getmanski               GMI  Russia                             9  4- 5- 0   13   71   83 
   2 r. boomstra                MI   Netherlands                        9  3- 6- 0   12   76   89 
   3 r. misans                  MI   Latvia                             9  3- 6- 0   12   74   86 
   4 a. georgiev                GMI  Russia                             9  3- 6- 0   12   74   86 
   5 p. meurs                   GMI  Netherlands                        9  4- 4- 1   12   73   86 
   6 n. gulyaev                 MI   Russia                             9  3- 6- 0   12   72   84 
   7 a. gantvarg                GMI  Belarus                            9  3- 6- 0   12   68   80 
   8 a. chizhov                 GMI  Russia                             9  3- 6- 0   12   68   79 
   9 g. kolesov                 MF   Russia                             9  3- 5- 1   11   76   89 
  10 e. watoetin                GMI  Belarus                            9  2- 7- 0   11   74   87 
  11 a. kalmakov                GMI  Russia                             9  2- 7- 0   11   73   85 
  12 v. milshin                 GMI  Russia                             9  2- 7- 0   11   72   84 
  13 g. valneris                GMI  Latvia                             9  2- 7- 0   11   71   82 
  14 a. schwarzman              GMI  Russia                             9  3- 5- 1   11   66   78 
  15 m. amrillaew               GMI  Russia                             9  2- 7- 0   11   63   74 
  16 v. kudriavcev              MF   Lithuania                          9  2- 6- 1   10   72   85 
  17 e. skliarov                MI   United States                      9  3- 4- 2   10   72   84 
  18 a. shaybakov               MI   Russia                             9  2- 6- 1   10   72   84 
  19 i. kirzner                 GMI  Ukraine                            9  2- 6- 1   10   70   82 
  20 a. baliakin                GMI  Netherlands                        9  2- 6- 1   10   70   82 
  21 a. silva                   GMI  Brazil                             9  2- 6- 1   10   68   81 
  22 i. trofimov                MF   Russia                             9  2- 6- 1   10   68   80 
  23 k. thijssen                GMI  Netherlands                        9  1- 8- 0   10   68   79 
  24 j. ndjofang                GMI  Cameroon                           9  2- 6- 1   10   67   79 
  25 m. milshin                 MF   Russia                             9  3- 4- 2   10   67   79 
  26 c. van dusseldorp          MI   Netherlands                        9  2- 6- 1   10   66   78 
  27 e. aliev                   MI   Azerbaijan                         9  2- 6- 1   10   65   77 
  28 s. fedin                   MF   Russia                             9  1- 8- 0   10   65   77 
  29 j. bobkov                  MF   Ukraine                            9  3- 4- 2   10   65   76 
  30 a. permyakov                    Russia                             9  4- 2- 3   10   60   72 
  31 a. tolchykau               MI   Belarus                            9  1- 7- 1    9   71   83 
  32 a. verkhovykh              MI   Russia                             9  2- 5- 2    9   68   80 
  33 r. vipulis                 GMI  Latvia                             9  2- 5- 2    9   66   79 
  34 a. ldokov                       Russia                             9  3- 3- 3    9   64   76 
  35 v. shchegolev              GMI  Russia                             9  1- 7- 1    9   64   76 
  36 s. bonadykov               MF   Russia                             9  2- 5- 2    9   63   75 
  37 m. oprishchenko                 Ukraine                            9  2- 5- 2    9   62   74 
  38 a. andreev                      Russia                             9  3- 3- 3    9   61   73 
  39 v. nikitchuk               MF   Ukraine                            9  2- 4- 3    8   70   82 
  40 f. ishmuratov              MF   Russia                             9  2- 4- 3    8   66   78 
  41 r. ishmetov                MF   Russia                             9  2- 4- 3    8   66   78 
  42 i. pavlov                       Russia                             9  2- 4- 3    8   65   78 
  43 a. filimonov                    Russia                             9  2- 4- 3    8   64   76 
  44 d. sahiullin                    Russia                             9  3- 2- 4    8   61   71 
  45 r. heusdens                GMI  Netherlands                        9  1- 6- 2    8   60   73 
  46 a. tatarenko                    Russia                             9  3- 2- 4    8   60   72 
  47 a. muhametov                    Russia                             9  4- 0- 5    8   58   68 
  48 a. safonov                 MF   Russia                             9  2- 4- 3    8   57   67 
  49 d. rysaev                       Russia                             9  3- 1- 5    7   60   71 
  50 n. kychkin                 MF   Russia                             9  1- 5- 3    7   59   71 
  51 b. shaymardanov                 Russia                             9  1- 5- 3    7   59   69 
  52 i. fedorov                      Russia                             9  1- 5- 3    7   55   66 
  53 v. alexandrov                   Russia                             9  1- 5- 3    7   55   65 
  54 a. mouangou                     Congo                              9  2- 3- 4    7   54   65 
  55 a. urmanov                      Russia                             9  3- 1- 5    7   54   64 
  56 s. sazonov                      Russia                             9  3- 1- 5    7   47   57 
  57 m. fayzutdinov                  Russia                             9  2- 2- 5    6   52   63 
  58 d. ashirov                      Russia                             9  2- 2- 5    6   46   56 
  59 m. sharafutdinov                Russia                             9  2- 2- 5    6   45   55 
  60 a. kashapov                     Russia                             9  2- 1- 6    5   46   55 
  61 n. gallyamov                    Russia                             9  1- 1- 7    3   46   55 
  62 v. grigoryan                    Russia                             9  0- 0- 9    0   45   53

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General ranking women
                                     Country                           Gm  +  =  -   Pt  Slh  S-l 
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   1 z. golubeva                GMIF Latvia                             9  4- 5- 0   13   77   89 
   2 n. hoekman                 GMIF Netherlands                        9  5- 3- 1   13   73   85 
   3 e. milshina                GMIF Russia                             9  3- 6- 0   12   72   85 
   4 t. tansykkuzhina           GMIF Russia                             9  3- 6- 0   12   71   84 
   5 v. motrichko               MFF  Ukraine                            9  3- 5- 1   11   79   92 
   6 a. idrisova                     Russia                             9  3- 5- 1   11   78   91 
   7 d. tkachenko               GMIF Ukraine                            9  3- 5- 1   11   70   83 
   8 o. abdullina               MIF  Russia                             9  3- 5- 1   11   69   82 
   9 i. platonova               MIF  Russia                             9  2- 7- 0   11   69   82 
  10 g. georgieva               MIF  Russia                             9  2- 7- 0   11   69   82 
  11 n. shestakova              MIF  Russia                             9  4- 3- 2   11   67   80 
  12 m. nogovitsyna             MIF  Russia                             9  3- 5- 1   11   60   73 
  13 n. leopoldova              MFF  Russia                             9  3- 4- 2   10   71   84 
  14 o. fedorovich              MIF  Belarus                            9  3- 4- 2   10   66   78 
  15 l. litvinenko              MIF  Ukraine                            9  2- 5- 2    9   72   85 
  16 a. sobakina                MFF  Russia                             9  3- 3- 3    9   70   83 
  17 reg. ajupova                    Russia                             9  3- 3- 3    9   67   80 
  18 v. belaya                  MFF  Ukraine                            9  3- 3- 3    9   66   78 
  19 g. abubakirova                  Russia                             9  3- 3- 3    9   64   76 
  20 o. balthazi                GMIF Ukraine                            9  2- 5- 2    9   61   74 
  21 m. borkowa                 MIF  Russia                             9  1- 7- 1    9   61   72 
  22 v. doumesh                 MIF  Netherlands                        9  1- 7- 1    9   59   70 
  23 a. aminova                 MFF  Russia                             9  3- 2- 4    8   63   74 
  24 a. popova                       Russia                             9  1- 6- 2    8   63   74 
  25 i. pashkevich              GMIF Belarus                            9  1- 6- 2    8   63   74 
  26 j. valeeva                 MFF  Russia                             9  0- 8- 1    8   63   74 
  27 n. savina                  MIF  Russia                             9  1- 6- 2    8   62   73 
  28 j. makarenkova             MIF  Ukraine                            9  1- 6- 2    8   59   69 
  29 ruf. ajupova                    Russia                             9  1- 6- 2    8   56   66 
  30 h. zhao                         China                              9  2- 4- 3    8   53   65 
  31 s. shi                          China                              9  2- 4- 3    8   53   64 
  32 c. osipova                      Russia                             9  2- 4- 3    8   48   59 
  33 o. reynish                 MIF  Ukraine                            9  1- 5- 3    7   57   68 
  34 j. yurkova                      Russia                             9  2- 3- 4    7   53   63 
  35 a. kychkina                     Russia                             9  2- 2- 5    6   51   62 
  36 k. nakhova                      Russia                             9  1- 3- 5    5   52   62 
  37 a. sagitova                     Russia                             9  0- 4- 5    4   49   58 
  38 p. bolotkova                    Russia                             9  0- 3- 6    3   59   70

Hanco Elenbaas · Post by **Hanco Elenbaas** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 01:02

Interviews met Getmanski en Goloebjewa voor het sportjournaal van Rusland 2:
http://news.sportbox.ru/Vidy_sporta/sha ... Kubok-mira

Hanco Elenbaas · Post by **Hanco Elenbaas** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 05:07

Lélio Marcos wrote:Allan Silva será o único do Brasil e da América em Pequim !!

O brasileiro Allan Silva será o único representante da América no Sport Accord World Mind Games de 8 a 17 de dezembro próximo em Pequim, que reunirá 12 dos melhores damistas do mundo.
Só falta definir o campeão chinês, que representará o país anfitrião do evento.
Os demais participantes são:

Alexander Georgiev - Rússia

Alexander Getmanski - Rússia

Alexei Chishov - Rússia

Mourodoullo Amrillaew - Rússia

Roel Boomstra - Holanda

Pim Meurs - Holanda

Jean Marc Ndjofang - Camarões

Guntis Valneris - Letônia

Roberts Misans - Letônia

Allan Silva - Brasil

Dul Erdenebileg - Mongólia

Dessa forma, Allan Silva incluiu o Brasil no seleto grupo de 7países que estarão no Sport Accord em dezembro próximo na China.
Veja aqui mais detalhes sobre a Copa Mundial em Ufa, na Rússia, que deu a vaga para o brasileiro Allan Silva.

Hanco Elenbaas · Post by **Hanco Elenbaas** » Mon Jul 25, 2011 05:11

De Telegraaf, 25 juli 2011

Juri · Post by **Juri** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 14:43

Hanco Elenbaas wrote:
Lélio Marcos wrote:Allan Silva será o único do Brasil e da América em Pequim !!

O brasileiro Allan Silva será o único representante da América no Sport Accord World Mind Games de 8 a 17 de dezembro próximo em Pequim, que reunirá 12 dos melhores damistas do mundo.
Só falta definir o campeão chinês, que representará o país anfitrião do evento.
Os demais participantes são:

Alexander Georgiev - Rússia

Alexander Getmanski - Rússia

Alexei Chishov - Rússia

Mourodoullo Amrillaew - Rússia

Roel Boomstra - Holanda

Pim Meurs - Holanda

Jean Marc Ndjofang - Camarões

Guntis Valneris - Letônia

Roberts Misans - Letônia

Allan Silva - Brasil

Dul Erdenebileg - Mongólia

Dessa forma, Allan Silva incluiu o Brasil no seleto grupo de 7países que estarão no Sport Accord em dezembro próximo na China.
Veja aqui mais detalhes sobre a Copa Mundial em Ufa, na Rússia, que deu a vaga para o brasileiro Allan Silva.

From where here appeared Alexei Chishov - Rússia?

Hanco Elenbaas · Post by **Hanco Elenbaas** » Sat Jul 30, 2011 17:11

Juri wrote:
Hanco Elenbaas wrote:
Lélio Marcos wrote:Allan Silva será o único do Brasil e da América em Pequim !!

O brasileiro Allan Silva será o único representante da América no Sport Accord World Mind Games de 8 a 17 de dezembro próximo em Pequim, que reunirá 12 dos melhores damistas do mundo.
Só falta definir o campeão chinês, que representará o país anfitrião do evento.
Os demais participantes são:

Alexander Georgiev - Rússia

Alexander Getmanski - Rússia

Alexei Chishov - Rússia

Mourodoullo Amrillaew - Rússia

Roel Boomstra - Holanda

Pim Meurs - Holanda

Jean Marc Ndjofang - Camarões

Guntis Valneris - Letônia

Roberts Misans - Letônia

Allan Silva - Brasil

Dul Erdenebileg - Mongólia

Dessa forma, Allan Silva incluiu o Brasil no seleto grupo de 7países que estarão no Sport Accord em dezembro próximo na China.
Veja aqui mais detalhes sobre a Copa Mundial em Ufa, na Rússia, que deu a vaga para o brasileiro Allan Silva.
From where here appeared Alexei Chishov - Rússia?

I guess because Alexeï has been 10 times World Champion, and is trainer/coach from the Draughts Federation in China? You'd better ask Lélio, leliomls@yahoo.com

Chizhov is the most crowned World Champion in the history of draughts, even more than Isidore Weiss. Without him a draughts tournament is not a real top tournament.

Juri · Post by **Juri** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 06:38

Hanco Elenbaas wrote:
Juri wrote:
From where here appeared Alexei Chishov - Rússia?
I guess because Alexeï has been 10 times World Champion, and is trainer/coach from the Draughts Federation in China? You'd better ask Lélio, leliomls@yahoo.com

Chizhov is the most crowned World Champion in the history of draughts, even more than Isidore Weiss. Without him a draughts tournament is not a real top tournament.

It's YOUR opinion. But its not a sport in this case!
And what to do with Gantwarg, Shvartsman, Wiersma, Sijbrands...?

its an amateur logic! not seriously for FMJD!

and Chizhov is not the trainer/coach from the Draughts Federation in China!
he works in ONE Province only in China.
at all, in China work now 5 foriegn coaches! in Future maybe more.
So its your fault.

Juri · Post by **Juri** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 06:45

As for me, it has only 2 possibilities for the FMJD place in Beijing.
1) - Its Shvartsman. HE tooks more points than others in World Cups. But he is 4-th from Russie.
2) - Or Balyakin, second one after Shvartsman, if to calculate points.

Any other solutions are not sportive! and dont have any objective reasons!

Chizov in this ranking is 4-th! after Gantwarg also.
He is great player, but must be some objective reason!

Hanco Elenbaas · Post by **Hanco Elenbaas** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 16:31

Juri wrote:
Hanco Elenbaas wrote:
Juri wrote:
From where here appeared Alexei Chishov - Rússia?
I guess because Alexeï has been 10 times World Champion, and is trainer/coach from the Draughts Federation in China? You'd better ask Lélio, leliomls@yahoo.com

Chizhov is the most crowned World Champion in the history of draughts, even more than Isidore Weiss. Without him a draughts tournament is not a real top tournament.
It's YOUR opinion. But its not a sport in this case!
And what to do with Gantwarg, Shvartsman, Wiersma, Sijbrands...?

its an amateur logic! not seriously for FMJD!

and Chizhov is not the trainer/coach from the Draughts Federation in China!
he works in ONE Province only in China.
at all, in China work now 5 foriegn coaches! in Future maybe more.
So its your fault.

Relax. I can imagine that you don't like Chizhov after what he wrote about you on Shashki Forum

but he still is the only one in the history of Draughts who has become world champion 10 times. And it's not only my opinion that a Draughts tournament without Chizhov is not a real top tournament. The organizers of the last two FMJD world championships shared this opinion and invited Chizhov to participate.

Better write Lélio Marcos if you want to know why exactly Lélio has put Chizhov on his list.

Juri · Post by **Juri** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 16:47

Hanco Elenbaas wrote:
Relax. I can imagine that you don't like Chizhov after what he wrote about you on Shashki Forum but he still is the only one in the history of Draughts who has become world champion 10 times. And it's not only my opinion that a Draughts tournament without Chizhov is not a real top tournament. The organizers of the last two FMJD world championships shared this opinion and invited Chizhov to participate.

Better write Lélio Marcos if you want to know why exactly Lélio has put Chizhov on his list.

I relax.

Chizhov didnt tell anything bad! and its not a reason at all - dont like anyone because of it.
its for children.
I respect him as the Great player. But its not a reason!
Everything must be fairly!

YOU dont like Shvartsman? Or Balyakin?

"The organizers of the last two FMJD world championships shared this opinion and invited Chizhov to participate. "
And this words is nice to hear! if its true you just confirmed my opininion!

this is just Lelio's words. So lets wait FMJD's solution.
And I will not very surprised if they choose like you sayd...

Hanco Elenbaas · Post by **Hanco Elenbaas** » Mon Aug 01, 2011 17:37

Juri wrote:
Hanco Elenbaas wrote:
Relax. I can imagine that you don't like Chizhov after what he wrote about you on Shashki Forum but he still is the only one in the history of Draughts who has become world champion 10 times. And it's not only my opinion that a Draughts tournament without Chizhov is not a real top tournament. The organizers of the last two FMJD world championships shared this opinion and invited Chizhov to participate.

Better write Lélio Marcos if you want to know why exactly Lélio has put Chizhov on his list.
I relax.
Chizhov didnt tell anything bad! and its not a reason at all - dont like anyone because of it.
its for children.
I respect him as the Great player. But its not a reason!
Everything must be fairly!

YOU dont like Shvartsman? Or Balyakin?

"The organizers of the last two FMJD world championships shared this opinion and invited Chizhov to participate. "
And this words is nice to hear! if its true you just confirmed my opininion!

this is just Lelio's words. So lets wait FMJD's solution.
And I will not very surprised if they choose like you sayd...

Shvartsman became world champion only 3 times, Balyakin 0 times. In Draughts sports it's tradition and an unwritten rule since the days of Isidore Weiss that the one who is crowned most is the first to be invited for any important tournament. That tradition makes Chizhov a very lucky person indeed.

Juri · Post by **Juri** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 06:34

Hanco Elenbaas wrote:
Shvartsman became world champion only 3 times, Balyakin 0 times. In Draughts sports it's tradition and an unwritten rule since the days of Isidore Weiss that the one who is crowned most is the first to be invited for any important tournament. That tradition makes Chizhov a very lucky person indeed.

According of your Logic, Brasil should always playes in WC football, because WC without Brasil - its not WC!
and if they not qualify, FIFA MUST give them a free place!

also I dont like when on the any objective reason people try to find some subjective motive.
I like all people, but the Fair is the most important!

And dont forget about other thing. In Beijing for usual draughts fans will held the great competition. BUT for proffessional draughts players its ONLY possibility to earn some money in the poor draughts Sport! not so much such possibilities...
So when we talking about favorites its not fairly!
For the Strong organisation as FMJD have to exist only RULES, that they cannot change as girls change dresses.
only present time, history its for fans!

Sport must be a sport!
its my opinion.

Hanco Elenbaas · Post by **Hanco Elenbaas** » Tue Aug 02, 2011 07:17

Juri wrote:
Hanco Elenbaas wrote:
Shvartsman became world champion only 3 times, Balyakin 0 times. In Draughts sports it's tradition and an unwritten rule since the days of Isidore Weiss that the one who is crowned most is the first to be invited for any important tournament. That tradition makes Chizhov a very lucky person indeed.
According of your Logic, Brasil should always playes in WC football, because WC without Brasil - its not WC!
and if they not qualify, FIFA MUST give them a free place!

also I dont like when on the any objective reason people try to find some subjective motive.
I like all people, but the Fair is the most important!

And dont forget about other thing. In Beijing for usual draughts fans will held the great competition. BUT for proffessional draughts players its ONLY possibility to earn some money in the poor draughts Sport! not so much such possibilities...
So when we talking about favorites its not fairly!
For the Strong organisation as FMJD have to exist only RULES, that they cannot change as girls change dresses.
only present time, history its for fans!

Sport must be a sport!
its my opinion.

In the times that Joao Havelange was president from the FIFA, he arranged that Brasil and Argentina because of very easy qualifications in South-America were sure to play in áll World Cup finals. If the FMJD wants to become a strong organization, it should continue to follow the line of the old organizers and make sure that the great champions are there in every important FMJD-tournament. {The last seven,eight years up to now, according to Ton Sijbrands, the three best draughts players in the world are Chizhov, Georgiev & Schwarzman}.

In Holland in the 70s, 80s and 90s Harm Wiersma and Ton Sijbrands were invited every year to play in the finals of the Dutch championships, without having to play qualifications. In the Dutch chess federation Jan Timman also never needed to qualify for the finals of the Dutch chess championships. It was easier to attract sponsors and media attention when these well-known names played instead of others nobody ever heard of.

Ton Sijbrands was world champion two times, Harm Wiersma seven times. Chizhov, more than Sijbrands & Wiersma together, and besides that the only one who won matches against Wiersma & Sijbrands.

Sport must be sport, that's why great champions who have proved themselves many times do not have to do what the less fortunate must do. To promote our sport we cannot do without big names to attract the attention from crowds, media and sponsors. Cheers!

PS: Chizhov told you on Shashki Forum that it never brought him luck to be on Lélio's list...

Did Lélio tell you why Chizhov is on his Beijing list?

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