declaration of the Russian Draught Federation
declaration of the Russian Draught Federation
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Alexander Soerkov
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Appealing to draughts the public, would be more decent to publish and already had answer. I correct an incident whether Gurkov, whether Kabolov.
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Alexander Soerkov
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In addition I place the letter of Mr. Pieter J. Hildering, Executive Vice-President of the FMJD, to visitors of a site " Draughts in Russia "
Dear forum visitors of the Shaski site.
I have been watching over more than a year the discussion going on over the topic two Russian federations and our or my acting in that respect.
When I first was requested for this position I thought I might not be the right man to clear the mess. Anyway important to us was to stabilize the situation of the different parties as from Zwartsluis. This has happened and we were elected unanimous. You have to understand that a position of EVP is different in Russia compared to Holland. This type of position mean nothing to little over here. So I started fresh in Berlin to get the thing on track again. On this meeting of the GA in Berlin we had 3 problems:
1. Van Beek v.s. Shovkoplias.
2.Belarus v.s. EDC
3. Russia v.s.Russia.
First problem was solved during the meeting. This was important to go on.
For the second two problems I have requested for the mandate. This mandate was given to me and the board to act. During a period of two months I have taken the time to investigate this problem and have communicated my results to the CD. As we were given the mandate to act we have acted. This decision was taken not only by me but by the majority of the FMJD board with the exception of Mr. Shovkoplias and Mr. Yatsenko. They were not in favour but have confirmed their agreement with the steps taken in January ( 3 month's later). at our CD meeting in Holland. So the whole board has agreed on the taken steps. I also read the article in Sport express but things a decided by majority and people can be in favour or against.
The reason for excluding is simple: Organizing illegal world Championships without the world participating. Using our logo and name in that respect. Not willing to stop this and again starting a tournament on this level. After repeated warnings we have decided to take this action.
Are we working illegal in the frame of our rules: No we are not. This Russia affair was hanging for already 2 years and difficult to solve. The GA understood that and there was no wish to continue this for another two years until the next GA. The mandate is the correct way in having the possibility to act. The problem we face today is that criticism is from those who did not participate in Berlin and probably do not know.
In all respect the mandate was correct and justified and the decision taken was taken by the board not by me alone. I have consulted all members of the boards for close to three weeks after we investigated.
Have we interfered in an internal Russian problem? No we have not as we as FMJD decide who part of our organization and is under which conditions they should act. This means the FMJD decides who can be member. It is not a possible member to decide this.
The tone of Mr. Kabalov in his latest letter does not make me angry or sad.
The tone is from one who does not completely understand. It would be an internal problem if every one was acting in respect to our rules. But that did not happen.
One of these interesting questions we have to ask ourselves is funding. This is a topic that we have put attention to. The same funding is possible cause of this aggressive communication we have today with the excluded ones. I have received some info about this topic that does not make me happy.
So as resume: The style that Mr. Kabolov is discussing with me is the same style as Klimashov did with me.
I think they are sitting next to each other. Anyway I have no problem with it. If that is the style than that is the style.
Ministry of Sports: It seems that the Ministry of Sports has still not taken a decision. That is really a pity but it is something we can not change. It is up to them. Key is that we as FMJD decide who we have as member. The Ministry will in such cases requested to accept the chosen member. It is not the other way round.
I hope that this information given to you will be of interest and will help you to finish the discussion that is present still going on.
Pieter J. Hildering, Executive Vice-President of the FMJD, 22 April 2005.
Dear forum visitors of the Shaski site.
I have been watching over more than a year the discussion going on over the topic two Russian federations and our or my acting in that respect.
When I first was requested for this position I thought I might not be the right man to clear the mess. Anyway important to us was to stabilize the situation of the different parties as from Zwartsluis. This has happened and we were elected unanimous. You have to understand that a position of EVP is different in Russia compared to Holland. This type of position mean nothing to little over here. So I started fresh in Berlin to get the thing on track again. On this meeting of the GA in Berlin we had 3 problems:
1. Van Beek v.s. Shovkoplias.
2.Belarus v.s. EDC
3. Russia v.s.Russia.
First problem was solved during the meeting. This was important to go on.
For the second two problems I have requested for the mandate. This mandate was given to me and the board to act. During a period of two months I have taken the time to investigate this problem and have communicated my results to the CD. As we were given the mandate to act we have acted. This decision was taken not only by me but by the majority of the FMJD board with the exception of Mr. Shovkoplias and Mr. Yatsenko. They were not in favour but have confirmed their agreement with the steps taken in January ( 3 month's later). at our CD meeting in Holland. So the whole board has agreed on the taken steps. I also read the article in Sport express but things a decided by majority and people can be in favour or against.
The reason for excluding is simple: Organizing illegal world Championships without the world participating. Using our logo and name in that respect. Not willing to stop this and again starting a tournament on this level. After repeated warnings we have decided to take this action.
Are we working illegal in the frame of our rules: No we are not. This Russia affair was hanging for already 2 years and difficult to solve. The GA understood that and there was no wish to continue this for another two years until the next GA. The mandate is the correct way in having the possibility to act. The problem we face today is that criticism is from those who did not participate in Berlin and probably do not know.
In all respect the mandate was correct and justified and the decision taken was taken by the board not by me alone. I have consulted all members of the boards for close to three weeks after we investigated.
Have we interfered in an internal Russian problem? No we have not as we as FMJD decide who part of our organization and is under which conditions they should act. This means the FMJD decides who can be member. It is not a possible member to decide this.
The tone of Mr. Kabalov in his latest letter does not make me angry or sad.
The tone is from one who does not completely understand. It would be an internal problem if every one was acting in respect to our rules. But that did not happen.
One of these interesting questions we have to ask ourselves is funding. This is a topic that we have put attention to. The same funding is possible cause of this aggressive communication we have today with the excluded ones. I have received some info about this topic that does not make me happy.
So as resume: The style that Mr. Kabolov is discussing with me is the same style as Klimashov did with me.
I think they are sitting next to each other. Anyway I have no problem with it. If that is the style than that is the style.
Ministry of Sports: It seems that the Ministry of Sports has still not taken a decision. That is really a pity but it is something we can not change. It is up to them. Key is that we as FMJD decide who we have as member. The Ministry will in such cases requested to accept the chosen member. It is not the other way round.
I hope that this information given to you will be of interest and will help you to finish the discussion that is present still going on.
Pieter J. Hildering, Executive Vice-President of the FMJD, 22 April 2005.
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Guest
It looks like mr Hildering is busy fighting and fueling all kinds of (personal) battles instead of governing and leading the FMJD in a decent way.
I would like to see him give his view on important matters:
- how can draughts be made more attractive to the general public?
- how can sponsors be attracted on a larger scale?
- how can the organization of the FMJD be changed in a professional and credible institution
Looks more like the banana republic with a sole dictator and lots of internal warfare.
Maybe mr. Hildering can clarify on this forum how he spends his time as EVP and what is program for the coming year is.
I would like to see him give his view on important matters:
- how can draughts be made more attractive to the general public?
- how can sponsors be attracted on a larger scale?
- how can the organization of the FMJD be changed in a professional and credible institution
Looks more like the banana republic with a sole dictator and lots of internal warfare.
Maybe mr. Hildering can clarify on this forum how he spends his time as EVP and what is program for the coming year is.
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Guest
More correct would be to ask about it president FMJD of Mr. Shovkopljas. Struggle for unity FMJD on the basis of the existing charter is very important problem. Without it there will be sponsors and in general nothing.Anonymous wrote:Maybe mr. Hildering can clarify on this forum how he spends his time as EVP and what is program for the coming year is.
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If I read Hildering's letter he basically has a mandate to deal on behalf of the board. So de facto he is acting as president.Anonymous wrote:More correct would be to ask about it president FMJD of Mr. Shovkopljas. Struggle for unity FMJD on the basis of the existing charter is very important problem. Without it there will be sponsors and in general nothing.Anonymous wrote:Maybe mr. Hildering can clarify on this forum how he spends his time as EVP and what is program for the coming year is.
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draughts sponsor
Re: declaration of the Russian Draught Federation
For international sports it is not at all interesting if RDF or RIDF is registered by the Russian Justice Ministry. For FMJD and sponsors it is inportant which organisation represents the top players. This is without any doubt the RFID. If you look at the players and clubs who are member of RFID then it is nonsence to state RFID only represents UFA. RFID represents (top) players from whole Russia.
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E.Bubbi
Dear girl-friends and friends of the world of the draughts,
I believe that what would have to interest to us mainly in puts into effect them historical moment that the world is living is the development of the draughts sport.
Our sport does not have the development that, sure, all wish. But because we do not have an increment of new levers, of new players, an increase of the number of the draughts players in the world?
The rules base of the game of the draughts, also in its multiple varying national ones on the 64 cases, are not difficult, and not complicated.
I would dare to say that in little minutes or at least in little time it is succeeded to make to begin a child, a boy or an adult to play to draughts. Naturally the more difficult step will be that one than to help it in the passage between the funny and amateur part to that sporting and of competition, of the game.
The task that the national Federations, are found to carry out are sure one of the most important and,
first and fundamental base, of the movement of the sport of the draughts.
Together to the game, it is begun to teach also, what he is the Sport Spirit: the respect of the rules and of the others, the discipline, the sacrifice in order to catch up a objective that can become one important scope in the own personal life.
To forehead of all this, to forehead of sacrifices that dark, daily come supported in all the national Federations, still today are found to face one crisis been born in remote times, but exploded with violence, to Zwartsluis in 2003. A crisis that partially has been resolved with Berlin 2003.
The Assembly G. meeting, has tried one solution to the problems of development of the movement and the sport draughts. Such change had to carry to the world-wide Federation oxygen for being able itself to develop and to put themselves at even with other World-wide Federations of the sports of the mind. Unfortunately today, not there are turns out to you. Political situations, economic crisis, generalized to world-wide level, blind confidence in human promises, have not carried to the sport draughts those hopes ignited in the Assembly of Zwartsluis.
In the wait to see to take concrete form those hopes, the FMJD is covering an other road, that one of the acknowledgment from part of International Olympic Committee.
The Italian Federation Draughts, is waiting with confidence the development of the next Assembly G. meeting, necessary to the aim of having the 2 reports of the Assembly of the World-wide Federation (oral without contestation, surprise attacks, demands for resigns or as far as the human mind can to excogitate), smooth and calm reports for the presentation, with to all the other demanded documentation, of the QUESTION OF ACKNOWLEDGMENT of the FMJD WHICH SPORT FROM PART of INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE.
The answer from this organism comes in date in short times.
Not the presentation today, ago to slip to the question of others 2 Assemblies..., at least 4 years!!.
Why, ask you, you are a lot important such acknowledgment? The most important it is for a simple reason, national Olympic Committees or governs and local administrations, will have to consider the national sport of the draughts and Federations, in an other optical, and to make to approach them contributions or consisting supports more.
In our hands it is our future, the realization of our expectations, the acknowledgment that also the draughts has even dignity of other sports.
I hope a lot in the wisdom of all those that love our sport truly.
We try, therefore of truly being joined like in the maxim of the FMJD: the unit is our force.
Cordially,
Eleonora Radin Bubbi
Director of the Tournaments Seniors
I believe that what would have to interest to us mainly in puts into effect them historical moment that the world is living is the development of the draughts sport.
Our sport does not have the development that, sure, all wish. But because we do not have an increment of new levers, of new players, an increase of the number of the draughts players in the world?
The rules base of the game of the draughts, also in its multiple varying national ones on the 64 cases, are not difficult, and not complicated.
I would dare to say that in little minutes or at least in little time it is succeeded to make to begin a child, a boy or an adult to play to draughts. Naturally the more difficult step will be that one than to help it in the passage between the funny and amateur part to that sporting and of competition, of the game.
The task that the national Federations, are found to carry out are sure one of the most important and,
first and fundamental base, of the movement of the sport of the draughts.
Together to the game, it is begun to teach also, what he is the Sport Spirit: the respect of the rules and of the others, the discipline, the sacrifice in order to catch up a objective that can become one important scope in the own personal life.
To forehead of all this, to forehead of sacrifices that dark, daily come supported in all the national Federations, still today are found to face one crisis been born in remote times, but exploded with violence, to Zwartsluis in 2003. A crisis that partially has been resolved with Berlin 2003.
The Assembly G. meeting, has tried one solution to the problems of development of the movement and the sport draughts. Such change had to carry to the world-wide Federation oxygen for being able itself to develop and to put themselves at even with other World-wide Federations of the sports of the mind. Unfortunately today, not there are turns out to you. Political situations, economic crisis, generalized to world-wide level, blind confidence in human promises, have not carried to the sport draughts those hopes ignited in the Assembly of Zwartsluis.
In the wait to see to take concrete form those hopes, the FMJD is covering an other road, that one of the acknowledgment from part of International Olympic Committee.
The Italian Federation Draughts, is waiting with confidence the development of the next Assembly G. meeting, necessary to the aim of having the 2 reports of the Assembly of the World-wide Federation (oral without contestation, surprise attacks, demands for resigns or as far as the human mind can to excogitate), smooth and calm reports for the presentation, with to all the other demanded documentation, of the QUESTION OF ACKNOWLEDGMENT of the FMJD WHICH SPORT FROM PART of INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE.
The answer from this organism comes in date in short times.
Not the presentation today, ago to slip to the question of others 2 Assemblies..., at least 4 years!!.
Why, ask you, you are a lot important such acknowledgment? The most important it is for a simple reason, national Olympic Committees or governs and local administrations, will have to consider the national sport of the draughts and Federations, in an other optical, and to make to approach them contributions or consisting supports more.
In our hands it is our future, the realization of our expectations, the acknowledgment that also the draughts has even dignity of other sports.
I hope a lot in the wisdom of all those that love our sport truly.
We try, therefore of truly being joined like in the maxim of the FMJD: the unit is our force.
Cordially,
Eleonora Radin Bubbi
Director of the Tournaments Seniors
