INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

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INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Sidiki » Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:53

Hi all,

I announce the Blitz tournament of draughts engines
That will start to 19 to 21 October

All details here : http://results.fmjd.org/tournaments/2022/f_1089/

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Joost Buijs » Sun Oct 09, 2022 16:34

Sidiki wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:53
Hi all,

I announce the Blitz tournament of draughts engines
That will start to 19 to 21 October

All details here : http://results.fmjd.org/tournaments/2022/f_1089/

Friendly, Sidiki
On what kind of hardware you want to run this tournament? If this is on 1 computer only you have to make sure that pondering for all engines is disabled, otherwise you will get skewed results.

By the end of coming week I will send you the Ares 1.53c version, it has a slightly improved network and book. I also made some changes to the futility pruning algorithm, now it will find the solution of tactical problems somewhat earlier. It's rating didn't improve much, at most 9 Elo compared to the 1.53b version.

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Sidiki » Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:29

Hi Joost,

Thanks again for this release.
The tournament will be runed on two separate computers
Hp Omen X 2S core i9 runed at 4.5 GHZ with added Ram of 64 Go, Windows 10 installed to permit to each engine to deploy his strenght.

I will probably get a more powerful but this itsn't so bad.

Thanks to all.

Friendly, Sidiki.

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by pontel » Tue Oct 11, 2022 13:00

Sidiki wrote:
Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:29
Hi Joost,

Hello Sidiki!

Windows 10 has some settings options dedicated to developers that purposely limit the use of hardware. Exploring these settings, I understand that it is possible to make the computers similar and consequently the tournament less unequal.

Big hug my brother!


Thanks again for this release.
The tournament will be runed on two separate computers
Hp Omen X 2S core i9 runed at 4.5 GHZ with added Ram of 64 Go, Windows 10 installed to permit to each engine to deploy his strenght.

I will probably get a more powerful but this itsn't so bad.

Thanks to all.

Friendly, Sidiki.

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Sidiki » Fri Oct 14, 2022 10:42

Hi dear Programmers,

The tournament it's for the 19th october at 6:00 GMT.

For those who are still interested to the blitz and aren't on the list can write to me at sidikcoul73@gmail.com.

This blitz will be so exciting, new comer is among us and short time will bring more wins and awesome games.

Have a nice day.

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Sidiki » Sat Oct 15, 2022 19:15

Hi to all,

I'm glad to announce that Jan-Jaap joined with Maximus 2.02, to add some fire to the tournament and i will once again be glad before these 4 days that remain before the tournament to have some possible update of the others and it's a request waiting for some of powerfuls engines in this forum.

We will have a fun together.

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Joost Buijs » Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:10

Hi Sidiki,

I tried to mail you, somehow it doesn't work, my mail-server doesn't want to send out mail to you. Maybe the problem is on my end, I don't know, I will take a look at it today.

Today or tomorrow I will put the new version 1.53d on the FTP-server, in single core tests it improved about 4 Elo points, multi core I didn't try. Only the engine has been changed, the network remains the same. Maybe I will add a slightly newer book.

Joost

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Sidiki » Wed Oct 19, 2022 13:46

https://results.fmjd.org/games/#/round/2022[@SL]f_1089/1/26

Here live games. Hi to all

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Joost Buijs » Thu Oct 20, 2022 08:46

Hi Sidiki,

Good luck with the tournament!

Can you tell what kind of hardware do you use for this tournament? Processor, clock frequency, number of threads and memory size? I assume you use two computers to allow the engines to ponder, are these computers hardware wise exactly the same or are they different?

Ares doesn't play it's first move from book, I let the engine decide by itself, I noticed it opened wit 34-30 in it's first game, it would only do this at very low depth, this makes me wonder.

Is it possible to post a list with the settings for all engines?

Joost

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Sidiki » Fri Oct 21, 2022 09:48

Joost Buijs wrote:
Thu Oct 20, 2022 08:46
Hi Sidiki,

Good luck with the tournament!

Can you tell what kind of hardware do you use for this tournament? Processor, clock frequency, number of threads and memory size? I assume you use two computers to allow the engines to ponder, are these computers hardware wise exactly the same or are they different?

Ares doesn't play it's first move from book, I let the engine decide by itself, I noticed it opened wit 34-30 in it's first game, it would only do this at very low depth, this makes me wonder.

Is it possible to post a list with the settings for all engines?

Joost
Hi Joost,

Sorry for be late, i was so focused on the tournament.
This's what you asked.

The hardware used to permit pondering are (Finally) 2
Hp Omen X 2S core i9 runed at 4.5 GHZ with added Ram of 64 Go, Windows 10 installed

Setting of programs for " INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022"


Ares NNUE 1.53d- Joost Buijs - Netherlands
threads = 8
tt-size = 32
bucket-size = 4
dxp-port = 27531
book = on
ponder = on
egdb = on (6 endgame database)
egdb-path = "./ADB-6P"
Aurora Borealis Professional - Alexander Svirin - Russia
Tournament Mode - On
Book level - Best
Hash - 1024
ED - 30000
Engine threads count - 1
Learn - 512 55%
Level - Grandmaster
Self-learning - On
Use learning base - On
8 endgame database used


Damage NNUE - Bert Tuyt - Netherlands
Book - 0n
Threads - 16
NNUE-file - nn_20210328.gnn
TT-persistent - On
TT-size - 24
BB-cache - 5
BB-size - 7 = 7 engame database

Dragon - Michel Grimminck - Netherlands
Big evaluation table - 1243 mb
Opening book - Tournament book
Number of cores - 16
Permanent brain - On
Avoid draws - Not
8 endgame database used

Dream - Saïd Koudache - France
Threads - 1
Book- on
Pondering - On
Hash Tables - 4000
No endgame database


IDames 7 Ngandeu Boris-Cameroon
TT-SIZE "Auto"
Threads="Auto"
Book=on
6 endgame database used

Maximus - Jan-Jaap van Horssen - Netherlands
Threads - 8
Opening book - On
Book margin - 0.0
Pondering - On
Transposition Table - 32 M positions
6 endgame database used

Moby Dam - Harm Jetten - Netherlands
Threads - 1
Size - 512MiB
Book = on
6 endgame database used

Horizon 4.6 - Feike Boomstra - Netherlands
No opening book
No endgame database

Edgar Gilbert - United States of America
Search threads - 16
Opening book - Best moves
Pondering - On
8 endgme database used

Plus 500 - Serge Startsev - Russia
Threads - 1
book - On
Self-learning - On
Endgames DB - On
6 endgame database used

Scan - Fabien Letouzey - France
Book - On
Book ply - 10
Book-margin - 4
Pondering - On
Threads - 16
TT-size - 26
6 endgame database used

Truus 1.0 Stef Keetman - Netherlands
Threads - 1
Pondering - On
Partijen database ruimte (MB) - 64
6 Stukken Database (anders 5) - On
Stellingen ruimte (16K) - 10000
6 endgame database used

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Joost Buijs » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:00

Hi Sidiki,

Thank you for the information!

I assume you have to play the games by hand and that you are very busy with it. It would be easier to automate these tournaments by building a special site for it, e.g. something like lidraughts.org, this would be a lot of work though, it probably isn't worthwhile.

Joost

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Sidiki » Fri Oct 21, 2022 12:22

You are right Joost, i will thing about it for the next Bullet the next month.

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Sidiki » Mon Oct 31, 2022 09:53

Hi all,

Final stand after first Robin turn

https://results.fmjd.org/tournaments/20 ... gs&13.html

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by BertTuyt » Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:32

Sidiki, thanks for organizing.

Although the known programs surface to the top, it is very good to have a new kid in town named Idames.
Think all the cards are still on the table who will win this tournament.
Good luck for the second half.

Bert

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Re: INTERNATIONAL DRAUGHTS ENGINES BLITZ 2022

Post by Sidiki » Mon Oct 31, 2022 11:13

Hi Bert,

Thanks again.

We have Effectively a new kid IDames.

Yes all the cards are on the table. It's why the table it's made in glass 😎.

One of the things that are interesting it's the possibility for all programers to analyse game of his baby to see that all work fine.

Friendly, Sidiki

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