Moby Dam

Discussion about development of draughts in the time of computer and Internet.
nufje
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by nufje » Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:54

Thank you. The option: -march=native works :-)

mtaktikos
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by mtaktikos » Wed Aug 05, 2015 18:08

Hello,
this is my first message here :)

Have used MinGW to compile Mobydam.exe for non-popcnt processors (non-popcnt)
Here is the link:
http://rghost.net/6gVZVhl2V

Enjoy!
Michael Taktikos

P.S. Had not success to compile Scan 20 for non-popcnt, the MinGW compiler doesn't support pthread with std:mutex. Can someone who has a VC++ -Compiler compile it? Thx

ArthurK
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by ArthurK » Tue Nov 17, 2015 19:19

Harm,

Just a question that I would like an answer.

WebSockets represent a big step in the evolution of the internet.

Can Moby Dam run as a WebSocket server?

If not, do you plan to facilitate this change by the opensource-community?

Arthur

Harm Jetten
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by Harm Jetten » Wed Nov 18, 2015 01:23

Hmm, I imagine WebSocket to be suitable for a draughts GUI in a web browser, talking to an engine on a server.

On the server side you would need a web server that sends the GUI Javascript/HTML5 code to the browser and then keeps a WebSocket channel open to communicate.

The web server could connect to the draughts engine through CGI pipes, so the engine would not need to know about WebSocket and GUI stuff.
Changing Moby Dam to use pipes instead of sockets is easy.

That leaves open the question of what protocol to use between GUI and engine.
DamExchange is very minimalistic, I imagine you would want a richer set to handle configuration/setup, progress info, etc.

Have a look at the "Protocols and Tools" topic here on the board.

ArthurK
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by ArthurK » Thu Nov 19, 2015 17:21

Subject: Moby Dam as WebSockets server.

I think instead of CGI pipes you can use the Websockets daemon as described at http://websocketd.com/
This program turns any program (written in whatever language) that uses STDIN/STDOUT into a WebSocket server.
For this to work, Moby Dam has to be changed to an input/output program (handling incoming and outgoing messages).
Or am I wrong?

Maybe the biggest challenge is to define and implement a new extended damexchange protocol for websockets. The design must be based on a browser client that does not need to know the rules of draughts. So a request to Moby Dam like "what are the legal moves" must be part of it.
I also worry how to handle multiple browser clients (maybe it must be limited to one?).
I have to study what is known at the "Protocols and tools" topic.

Birdy
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by Birdy » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:52

Hello friends!

Can someone kindly make a compilation for MobyDam to work on a 32-bit system?
I'm making the same request do Scan engine.

Thank you very much.

Harm Jetten
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by Harm Jetten » Tue Jul 05, 2016 18:09

A new version of Moby Dam is now available for your perusal.
This is the version that I used past weekend in the Computer Olympiad 2016.

Go to http://hjetten.home.xs4all.nl/mobydam/mobydam.html

See the bottom of the page, "second release."
The zip file contains the source as well as a 64-bit Windows executable.

Enjoy!

Krzysztof Grzelak
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Tue Jul 05, 2016 18:25

We sincerely thank you for sharing Harm.

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Re: Moby Dam

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Mon Apr 17, 2017 14:51

Hi Harm.

I have a question about the program WinTail. Is there a possibility that when you run a program shortcut WinTail, the program directly open the file engine. Do you have to show the engine every time and then the program will open that file.

Krzysztof.

ArthurK
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by ArthurK » Mon Mar 12, 2018 15:04

I try to compile mobydam with Linux Mint.
I get an error:

==============================================
arthur@pluto ~/mobydam/main $ make
gcc -g -O3 -Wall -mpopcnt -flto -DPF -DETC -DLMR -DKIL -DCUT -DCFLAGS="-g -O3 -Wall -mpopcnt -flto -DPF -DETC -DLMR -DKIL -DCUT" -c dxp.c
In file included from main.h:20:0,
from dxp.c:22:
../core/core.h:26:22: fatal error: sys/time.h: Bestand of map bestaat niet
#include <sys/time.h>
^
compilation terminated.
Makefile:24: recept voor doel 'dxp.o' is mislukt
make: *** [dxp.o] Fout 1
arthur@pluto ~/mobydam/main $
==============================================


How can I solve this problem?

ildjarn
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by ildjarn » Tue Mar 13, 2018 07:13

Did you install the linux-libc-devel package?
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ArthurK
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by ArthurK » Tue Mar 13, 2018 20:38

I have checked it.
linux-libc-devel Installed version 4.4.0-62.83

ArthurK
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by ArthurK » Wed Mar 14, 2018 21:18

I fix the problem with the compile error on my Linux Mint system.
The compiler gives an error at: #include <sys/time.h> (not found)
Clearly a lot of files were missing.

The problem is solved by installing the package build-essential.
Now it compiles mobydam with no errors and I could start it succesfully.

I hope this helps others with the same kind of problem.

ildjarn
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by ildjarn » Wed Mar 14, 2018 22:13

Did a Mint install in a VM, and found out that the package which contains sys/time.h (to be found in /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu) is libc6-dev.
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Re: Moby Dam

Post by Rein Halbersma » Wed Mar 14, 2018 22:38

ildjarn wrote:Did a Mint install in a VM, and found out that the package which contains sys/time.h (to be found in /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu) is libc6-dev.
build-essential is a package that bundles modern versions of gcc/g++, make, and the low-level libc libraries.

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